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decision. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. republicans say they are laughing at president obama's fiscal cliff offer. i'll show you how they are really crying. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> there are no shortage of pens in the white house. and i carry one around for emergency just in case. just waiting for the chance to use it to sign the bill to make sure people's taxes don't go up. >> the adult in the room continues his campaign to cut taxes for the middle class and john boehner keeps shooting spit balls. the latest on the stalemate and the democrat's upper hand. >>> mitch mcconnell gets ridiculous with his demands to weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration. bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. tonight, congressman javier pasara on why the latino community won't. be fooled. >>> the first fast food strike is historic. what you need to know about the lowest-paid workforce i
in the white house. and i carry one around for an emergency just in case, waiting for a chance to use it to sign this bill so people's taxes don't go up. >> the adult in the room continues his campaign to cut taxes for the middle class, and john boehner keeps shooting spit balls. >> it was not a serious proposal. >> tonight the latest on the stalemate and the democrats' upper hand. mitch mcconnell gets downright ridiculous with his demands to weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care dr. zeke emanuel responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. today, congressman javier on why the latino community won't be fooled. >>> the nation's first fast food strike is a historic protest for workers' rights. tonight, what you need to know about the lowest paid workforce in the country. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. president obama knows his opponent is on the ropes and he's not letting up. the president took his tax plan agenda on the road today. he went to a philadelphia, pennsylvania, toy f
out he wants former u.s. senator chuck hagel in nebraska for secretary of defense. he's a republly can and a combat veteran of vietnam. the neocons are out to stop him for what he is and what they aren't. he served in war right up front. he opposed unness wars like the ones we've been fighting. fighting and getting ourselves into all of these years. in other words, they opposed the secretary of defense who thinks the man is the commander in chief. there's not an obama vote among them, by the way. u.s. congressman and democrat from virginia. gentlemen, let's talk about the first of these fights. mr. moran, thank you for joining us. tonight, the republicans are engaging in i don't know whether it's a wild goose chase, some sign of something, some test of what? a weakness? why are they voting on something that won't even get to the senate, will never get near the president's desk and if it ever did, he'd love vetoing it. this idea of cutting the tax cuts or protecting the tax cuts of people, all the way up to a million a year. >> they're planning some kind of weird, political kobookie dan
there will be hell to pay for all of us, including them. the people running the government. the politicians. good politicians don't take their countries off of cliffs. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live from washington, d.c. tonight's lead, the end of an era. for more than 20 years republicans have calmed to the one policy that's crippled our ability to get things done in washington. do you remember this? >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> read my lips, no new taxes. george h.w. bush hammered that mantra to win the white house in 1988. but just two years later, the reagan deficits were skyrocketing and president bush was forced to change his most famous line. >> long and bitter battle over the budget officially ended last night. president bush put his signature on the deficit reduction package, including $140 billion in tax increases. >> tax increases. that was a turning point for the modern republican party. the right wing went crazy. and george bush lost re-election.
. and the people telling the most untruth lost is for that very reason. we were all of us paying attention, because it really mattered. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. john boehner is getting pressure from all sides, and looking for friends where he can find them. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage. >> democrats put the ball back in boehner's court, and they're turning the screws on the speaker. >> it's tough. but you have to do it. so is the point that you don't want to put your members on the spot, figure it out. >> democrats, business leaders, republicans, even santa claus are pressing boehner to do a deal. california congressman john garamendi is here with the latest. >>> the michigan sneak attack proves it again. union busting is all about politics. >> if a half a million people leave the labor movement every year, pretty soon you start having crimp in the political
know we all saw this. this is what we used to call the topic sentence. i think this was the most telling action oriented piece of what the president said last night up in connecticut. let's listen to it now. >> in the coming weeks i will use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens from law enforcement to mental health professionals to parents and educators in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this. because what choice do we have? we can't accept events like this as routine. are we really prepared to say that we're powerless in the face of such carnage? that the politics are too hard? are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom? >> chuck todd, you know, gun control was probably not in many politicians' song book going into this coming year but now it is. reality, reality checks, reality bites. do you think the president has given any sign he will do something about gun safety in this next term? >> well, if he wants to -- that speech was a powerful speech, it w
are one of a well reasoned ones in that chamber. thank you for joining us. all the best to you. >> thank you. love your show. >> thank you. >> the right to matt no-show stars right now. >> good evening, ed. thanks, my friend. and thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. over the summer, this past summer, republican governor rick snyder of michigan signed a bill to expand the use of telemedicine in his state. his new law requires that insurance companies have to pay for treatment that you get via contact with a doctor through like a web cam or otherwise online. it's telemedicine. governor snyder was so excited to sign this thing. he said at the time, "telemedicine offers an incredible opportunity to easily provide health care to michigan's elderly, disabled, and rural communities. i applaud the legislature's initiative to use technology to save lives." the bill got unanimous support. governor snyder signed it with his big happy statement about how awesome this was going to be. he was so excited. yay, telemedicine. telemedicine, you are the future for michigan. you are saving l
>>> thanks for being with us on this wednesday afternoon. don't go anywhere. chris matthews and "hardball" is next. >>> getting serious. let's play "hardball." ♪>>> getting serious. let's play "hardball." ♪>>> getting serious. let's play "hardball." ♪>>> getting serious. let's play "hardball." ♪>>> getting serious. let's play "hardball." ♪>>> getting serious. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. getting serious on guns in the hands of dangerous people. the president's given vice president biden is month to deal with a lethal combination of semiautomatic guns, clips, mental illness, and a violent culture. it's the brew that blew in newtown, connecticut. is there something we can do? the fiscal cliff. the president now says we're so close it makes no sense to fail. let's see tonight how close is close and whether or not the grownups can bring this to a healthy conclusion. and back to benghazi. there are reports in the state department's being blamed here. didn't have the protection they asked for. did
? ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to quickly calculate your mortgage payment based on today's incredibly low interest rates... right from your iphone or android smartphone. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ♪ >>> this morning, my question, does the focus on mental health take us away from the real debate about guns? >>> plus, "django" the "n" word and what all the fuss is about. >>> move over santa. this year, send your letters to hasbro if you want to change the world. >>> first, following the gun massacre in newtown, the nra finally speaks. you simply had to hear it to believe it. 8 . >>> good morning. i'm joy reid in today for the lovely melissa harris-perry. today, i am almost speechless because yesterday, the leading political force behind pro-gun policy, the national rifle association, broke their silence with a flabbergasting response to the tragedy in newtown. wayne lapierre made his assessment plain. >> the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protec
of these imperatives. an act of omission that would leave us open to foreign attack and invasion. tragically, we can't say the same about attacks on the country's domestic tranquility. what has the congress done to protect the country? nothing. and here's the question. when will we refuse as citizens to settle for, accept, live with a congress that fails to act in the face of such a demonstrated? if not now, after this, when? next week? next month? next year? next what? and if not us, who in this world is going to demand action to protect americans? joining me now is u.s. senator dick durbin of illinois. i want to read something from you which is very impressive, and it's in the op-ed pages of "the chicago tribune." quote, what holds us back are political organizations that are well-funded, well-organized, and determined to resist even reasonable limitations. there's a close political parallel between the gridlock in washington on dealing with our economy and national debt and the eerie silence in congress as the list of horrific gun crimes grows by the day. senator durbin, thank you. i know you hav
. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching details of the latest fiscal cliff counteroffer from the white house have emerged, and republicans are still whining and complaining. the white house confirmed their new offer has $1.4 billion in revenue from higher taxes on the wealthy. the previous offer was $1.6 billion. the white house is offering $340 billion in cuts to medicare and $250 billion in cuts to other programs. president obama spoke to abc's barbara walters about taxes on the rich going up whether republicans like it or not. >> prediction. are you going to be able to raise taxes? yes or no. >> oh, taxes are going to go up one way or the other. >> they are? >> and i think the key is to make sure that taxes go up on the high-end individuals like you and me, barbara, we can afford it. it is entirely possible for us to come up with a deal, but time is running short. >> the full interview between president obama and barbara walters will air friday at 10:00 p.m. on abc. we do know the president said this. "i'd like to see a big package, but the most important
governor, and plus mhp foot soldiers joining us here in nerdland and what is it going to be, deal or no deal? good morning, i'm melissa harris-perry, and let's start with howie mandel. yes, howie mandel. there is a lot we can learn from him. when you think of howie, you may think of the standup xhecomedia with a surgical glove on his head and he has survived and thrived in the brutal world of entertainment, but this is the howie mandel i'm interested in today. >> deal or no deal. >> you see, it turns out that the howie of deal or no deal might have something to teach us about our no deal congress. yes sh yes, nerdland, this is where game theory meets game show theory. this week, i learned that economists study game shows to help them understand high stakes decision making. and in fact, one group of researchers writing for the american economic review are declared "deal or no deal" to have desirable features that it is almost appears to be designed for an economics experiment rather than a tv show. if you don't know the show, the premise is breathtakingly simple. a kconsistent is s
republicans with really conservative republicans in primaries because you're setting us up to lose senate seats. now that he's out of there, he can become a kind of cross between grover norquist and the jim demint he always was. he can drive these hard right ideas, but he can also sponsor hard right candidates in republican primaries. i think he thinks he's going to be more than important at the heritage foundation than he is in the senate. >> let me ask you about that, john. it looks to me not just -- the money is always a draw for some people, i'm not sure he is here. he would have been chairman of the commerce committee if the republicans had won this fight for the senate. they lost it. is it just one of the things that what happens when your party loses, you look for something better to do? >> i think this is better where he's looking for a different platform where he can have a louder voice and concentrate on th the issues he wants to. >> he's the chief recruiter on the right. he liked christine o'donnell and he ended up rooting for people pretty hard on the right like tomby in penns
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our total can reach almost 25 million dollars. it's a nice reflection on us all. now through january 2nd. get 0% apr financing for 36 months on a 2013 subaru forester and we'll donate 250 dollars to your choice of 5 charities. >>> hello, everyone. i'm tamron hall. the "news nation" is following leaders warning their colleagues not to make holiday plans with new doubts today over fiscal cliff negotiations. >> the president seems to be walking us ever so slowly towards the cliff. we have said we are committed to staying here. we are going to stay here right up until christmas eve. throughout the time and period before the new year. >> now, their warning followed a 15 minute phone call between john boehner and the president described as tense by the news team. a characterization, the speaker himself disputed. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town, but we have serious differences. the president and i have frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> democratic sources tell us the phone call fell apart because the latest counter proposal included an extensi
with us tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. the "rachel maddow show" starts right now. ezra klein filling in for rachel tonight. >>> good evening, i'm ezra klein. rachel maddow has the night off. well deserved. we appreciate you sticking around for the next hour on a very, very big night in the news. there is an enormous story about the rights of workers tonight in the state of michigan. it's seriously astonishing stuff. we'll get very deep into it. but there is another equally if not more seismic political story tonight out of washington. and that is where we begin. today will be seen, remembered, as a huge day in the republican party's continuance of war. something really big happened. south carolina senator jim demint announced today he'll be leaving the senate. he'll not be there anymore. he's leaving to head a think tank called the heritage foundation where he stands to make something like ten times his current salary. yay for jim demint, good money. kind of. it's good for him, but it's really good for his colleague, republican senate leader mitch mcconn
untruth lost. it's for that very reason. we were, all of us, paying attention because it really mattered. that's "hardball" for now. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks for tuning in. tonight's lead, republicans are picking a fight they can't win. new evidence today that president obama is in a strong position in this nation's fight for fairness. and republicans are on the losing end of this fight. now, new polls show 65% of americans believe the president does have a mandate to raise taxes on the wealthy. 62% say he's got a mandate to protect medicare. and 64% says he's got a mandate to protect social security. that is a winning hand. the president has it and he knows it. >> i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> and get this. 160 ceos from america's biggest companies are also now saying it's time to raise taxes on the rich. but, speaker john boehner is sticking to his talking points; at least publically. he's refusing to budge. >> the longer
of us. based on what you heard there, what, if anything, what more have we been able to clean about this shooter? >> well, quite a bit. we continue to clear up this confusion, almost the equivalent of the fog of war that has existed for the past day and a half. we're now told that there is no formal report of any altercation that took place between the shooter and the three or four staff members or teachers that some reports said took place on thursday. we now know, officially, that there's no known connection between the mother in the school, although we labored under the impression all day yesterday that she was a kindergarten teacher. somehow, erroneous information passed on to us. we know from the medical examiner, who personally conduct ed seven of the autopsies, realizing there's many more victims, seven of the autopsies, all which he indicated were first graders, and that each of these -- each of these children suffered between 3 and 7 gunshot wounds each. now, this is with a 223. this is an assault rifle. some information has suggested that the victim's mother had access or
night and that's what counts to a lot of us in america. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> knives out on the right. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. when a party loses an election, the knives come out. right now we're watching the night of the long knives on the right. these stories breaking tonight. right wing senator jim demint, the man behind too many failed right wing senate challengers, christine "i'm not a witch" o'donnell, richard mourdock announced today he's quitting the senate to run the hard right heritage foundation. meanwhile, in the republican house a purge is under way with speaker boehner dumping uncontrollable right wingers from prize committee assignments. they're out because they're too right. so what is too right for the republicans following the defeat this week or their defeat last month? is voting nay in the senate against a handicap rights treaty because it carries the nightmare dread of blue helmets riding black helicopters sweeping into your home sc
source that we potentially can use for the next 100 years. there are a lot of folks right now that are engaging in hydraulic fracking doing it safely. the problem is we haven't established clear guidelines for how to do it safely and informed the public so that neighbors know what's going on. you know, your family, you can make sure that any industry that's operating in your area, that they're being responsible. >> yeah. part of the fracking being so new, like you said, especially deep fracking being so new is there's a lot we don't know about it. it does burn cleaner than coal in power plants. that's pretty uncontested, but if you go look at the methane released by fracking and by transporting this stuff through pipeline there's a lot of methane released, and it's a powerful greenhouse gas in terms of co2. the balance of climate change between natural gas and coal is still somewhat a question mark. it looks based on most science we have now cleaner than coal, but we just don't know. we don't know a lot about the local impacts and how long these prices stay low or how long the
for gay marriage equality or against efforts to deny it. the issue that just eight years ago was used to deny victory to a democratic presidential candidate, john kerry, is now this country's majority opinion. well, something here has stirred but what is it in what has shifted the grunt tw-thirds against smement marriage to more than 50% for it in compassion, common sense, idea fatigue? the inability of opponents to specify a single argument against it or is it the sheer number of declarations to family, friends, co-workers and public by so many people that they are gay? is this why owe so many americans have changed their mind on marriage equality? in any case tonight a major break through in the conservative ranks. our guest clark cooper, president of the log cabin republicans, and joan walsh of salon.com. let's take a look at something that george will said this weekend and the question is has the opposition of gay marriage softened even along conservative. take a look at what mr. will said this weekend. let's watch it. >> this decision by the supreme court came 31 days after an el
are the chances of them getting their ducks in a row, boehner getting his ducks in a row and us still being able to avoid the krif? >> right. we should have a better sense of that by tomorrow afternoon when they start to reconvene. speaker boehner made it clear at the meeting at the white house on friday, anything that the senate passes will be considered by the house, might be amended, might be changed a bit. has to go back to the senate quick for changes. but he said will indeed be considered. the question, can perhaps all the democrats plus at least some republicans, come together to pass something while a bunch of conservative republicans will oppose it, because it's raising taxes for one thing. >> the issue of taxes, is this a consequence of really what happens with bush 41? who is recovering in the hospital, by the way, right now and certainly our thoughts are with him. when he broke that pledge, read my lips, no new taxes, that was a real turning point for republic i had dans thought he lost that election because he went back on that pledge and raise taxes. will you get anyone in the hous
, and the facts that this was so dangerous for you, makes us worry about the prospect of us being able to cover this up close. welcome back. >> thanks. >> now you have to stay here and become a dentist. i talked to your mom about it already that will do it for us tonight. thank you for being with us. have a great holiday. >>> cliff-mas is coming. on capitol hill, not a creature is stirring. what happens in we ring in the new year with no fiscal deal? details ahead. >>> and the nra calls for security guards at every school. what you didn't hear on the statement from the pro-gun group. >>> holiday havoc. slow go in parts of the country and in some places it could get worse. >>> pennies and nickels, worth the cost? >>> good morning, welcome to "weekends with alex witt." what is happening out there. ten days and counting. president obama and house speaker boehner left washington without reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff. before heading to hawaii, president obama said he met individually with leaders of the house and senate, asking them to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle c
on another front tonight. the word is out he wants former u.s. senator chuck hagel of nebraska for secretary of dft defense. hagel is a republican and a combat veterans of vietnam. he would be first vietnam vet to head the pentagon. the neocons are out to stop him. he served in war right up front. he opposed unnecessary wars like the ones we have been fighting. fighting and getting ours into. in other words they oppose a secretary of dft who thinks like the man who is now the commander in chief. there is not an obama vote among them. jim moran, democrat from virginia, and eugene robinson. let's talk about the first of the fights. mr. moran, thaub for joining us. tonight the republicans are engaging in i don't know if it's a wild goose chase, some sign of something, some test of weakness. why are they voting on something that won't even get to the senate, will never get near the president's desk, and if it ever did, he'd love vetoing it? this idea of cutting off the tax cuts or rather protecting the tax cuts for people all the way up to $1 million a year? >> they're playing some kind of weird
watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or >>> heading over niagra falls in a barrel. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or the power of niagra falls itself? joining me now is politico's jonathan ryan. how about an answer on that one? what's going to protect these guys more? the low expectat
. >>> it took us three months to establish trust. these guys don't trust each other. they don't even trust each other in their own party. you've got leaders who, people behind them with a shif hoping they can get their job the next go 'round. poor old durbin has people over his back because he voted for this package. and the republicans, boehner's got to go to work and come back, and now there's 70 of them left, the tea party guys. these are guys who went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we've got five democrats, five republicans who range from dick durbin of illinois, great progressive democrat, and coburn of oklahoma, a progressive conservative, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake, the reason we were so successful is we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 6th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, msnbc political analyst, former democratic congressman, harold ford jr. >> mr. professor. >> g
that so-called fiscal cliff. in our new nbc news/wall street journal poll just out for us today, most americans say they want compromise. joining me here for our daily fix, chris, msnbc contributor and managing editor of postpolitics.com. the fiscal cliff, the people that we polled, americans get it. they want, two-thirds of them, 65% say they want a deal to be done. they want compromises even if it means targeted entitlement cuts and tax increases. >> yeah, and i don't think we should be terribly surprised by that, andrea. the truth of the matter is over the last decade or so what we've seen is congress, really, because of redistricting and other things like that, members of congress don't tend to have to represent the middle of the country. they wind up representing their two-party bases, the people that deeply disagree. democratic base does not want entitlement cuts, republican base does not want to raise taxes. but people in general like the idea congress can get something done on something big. now, i would say there's a little bit of devil in the details. the question does ask a
teacher doesn't know how to use a gun. pulls out your cap gun, revolver, and you're up against an ak-47. what are they talking about here? or are they saying school teachers should have ak-47s? >> could you imagine even if the governor were only talking about security guards, school security guards. could you imagine at an elementary school what his gun belt would have to look like in order to repel an ak-47, a bushmaster. >> let me get back though issue. i think this is a dodge. i think it's talking about something against gun control we're talking about multi-shot ammunition clips where it's up to 30 or wherever. >> and we're also talking about something else. i think the president spoke to it today. and that is that sickness in our soul as a nation that is violence an the worship of violence. >> let's start on that then. okay. we can't stop there being mental illness. it's part of being born. every once in awhile people have these problems. you go to the movie theater -- i'm a movie nut. i'll pick the wrong movie and at the commercials that come on, previews, there'll be six in a row
they need. they have to tell us. then we have to take a look at it and see if it makes sense for the american public. >> when will we see people putting something on the table or is that not going to happen until like the 30th, 31st of the month? >> well, what i would say is in the white house's initial offer they did offer $400 billion in medicare cuts. and that is something that i think the republicans should actually like as a starting point because clearly the white house knows that they are going to have to go up from there. and bob corker the senator from tennessee who was also on "meet the press" yesterday has proposed some legislation that instead cuts $641 million out of medicare. we'll see some scale up in that direction. there are some things that republicans could like in that initial bid. >> let me bring in congresswoman karen bass. so you're hearing all the sides going back and forth but the one thing that everybody seems to just about agree on is that we're not getting anywhere fast. lindsey graham says we're going over the cliff among others. what do you think
and afghanistan, shaving another trillion off of the deficit. that gets us to around 4 trillion in deficit over the next ten years. we are almost at 5 trillion in deficit reduction. as they sign the game shows, that's not all. the white house is also asking for about 200 billion in stimulus. according to the weekly standard, when senate minority leader mitch mcconnell saw the proposal, he quote, burst into laughter. he literally lol 'd. >> i've been very guarded in what i wanted to say. i didn't want it make it harder for me it say or the president or members of both parties to find common ground. but when i come out the day after the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table, i took a great risk. and then the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they send one up here, the calls for $1.6 trillion of new taxes, calls for not even $400 billion in cuts, and they want to have extra spending, that's actually greater than the amount they are willing to cut. i mean, it's -- it was not a serious proposal. and so, right now, we're almost nowhere
. >> all of us have to get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. >> we are ready to work for the president. >> buffed the president's proposal. >> the wrong approach. >> tim geithner brought them a deal. >> it didn't go bellwell. >> they thought was lewdrous. >> gave republicans nothing. >> my offer is this. >> my offer is this. >> nothing. >> nothing. >> republicans were very much offended. >> mitch mcconnell lasted at the offer. >> burst into laughter. >> laughing at the president's package -- >> that catch them by surprise at all? >> they have to come up with their pennsylvania package. >> we are ready to work with him. >> i promise ton laugh at it. >> we can solve these problems. >> we are almost everywhere. >> republicans not seeking our will on the president. >> democrats have the leverage and they know it. >> listen, this is a negotiation. >> what is negotiable? >> nothing. >> nothing. >> obama wants to go over the cliff. >> they are toward fight this all the way. >> only ten legislative days to go. >> what happens when we go over the cliff? a democrat orgasm happe
running out. t.j.? >> kristen welker for us at the white house. thank you so much. and joining me now with some inside perspective, there he is smiling this morning, democratic congressman elijah cummings a ranking member of the oversite committee. you are in baltimore, maryland right now. >> that's right. >> when are you heading back to washington, d.c.? >> i'll be in washington sometime later on this afternoon. >> and sir, what are you going to do when you get there? >> well, sadly, t.j., the house is in a position where we're going to have to wait and see what the senate does. as you remember, last week speaker boehner presented this plan b, which would have given -- extended tax cuts to those making less than $1 million and that was soundly rejected by his caucus. he never even presented it to the floor. so basically what he's done is thrown up his hands and said the house is out of this. we're just sitting on the sidelines sadly. so we have to wait and see what the senate is going to do. i was very glad to hear mr. mcconnell and senator reid say that they were going forward tryin
us on set are msnbc contributor mike barnicle. hello, mike. >> hello, mika. >> yeah, good thing you're awake. national affairs editor for new york magazine and msnbc political analyst john heilemann. >> yeah, hi. and from cnbc headquarters, co-host of cnbc's "squawk box" andrew ross-sorkin. >> do i need to make a joke about school being out? >> we're kind of tired of that. >> you've grown up. you went from being a little kid to an old man. >> he's a grizzled old vet. >> the gray hair is coming in. >> there's no in between. and from washington nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports" the lovely andrea mitchell. and "washington post" columnist and msnbc contributor jonathan capehart. thank you so much for being with us. why don't we just start really quickly with this story of the mere, mika, and that, of course, barack obama wins, the republicans lose, in a way that perhaps is more telling than just what one election result might suggest. >> well, i think it certainly does and it gives him a certain platform and credibility that perhaps he didn't
there, and they are analyzing that to see what they can get out of it. >> what can you tell us about what happened if what was the scenario? >> well, it all starts friday morning when he takes his mother's guns. she had purchased them legally. this is a woman who grew up in rural new hampshire, comfortable with guns, collected them. he killed her. takes three of the guns to the school. drives there in her car. forces his way in, apparently by shattering a window. they had a buzzer system. he forced his way in. the principal and the school psychologist tried to stop him. he killed them. and then concentrated his firepower on two classrooms with devastating effect. and, david, the detail that was show sho so shocking is he used an assault-style weapon. a term that bothers some people. but a bushmaster 223, the same weapon that the washington snipers used 10 years ago, and shot these children several times, some as many as 10 and 11 times. so you can only imagine the devastating effect that that had. >> the shooter, adam lanza, who took his own life. we have an older picture of him, the
is, how will that influence the court? it could make them say it's not necessary for us to go here. on the other han, they could say it's now safe to look at this because there is something like an emerging consensus. quite literally, the opposition to gay marriage is dying. it's old people. >> dying, that's brutal. will is on something there. the question is barely an issue for young people. take a look at this gallop poll from just last month. 73% of younger people in the younger age category, 73% of people between 18 and 29 say same-sex marriage should be valid. only 26% of that group say that i had don't like it. what i want to start with, clark, could you have lived this? you're gay, you're republican, which i've always found interesting. you can explain it. your party is against same-sex marriage. you fought that battle. trooes in the public positions will argue about that in a minute. what do you make among the intellectuals, he's always been raining pretty high now. well, what george is saying is a reflection that we've seen in the platform debates. there actually was a deb
. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set here in new york city, we have msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. >> in my ear, mika. >> no, he was at the white house. >> i don't understand. where's t.j.? >> he's off today. >> why's that? >> he was busy. he went to the white house. >> that's great. you know, alex went to the white house, too. >> and drove back himself. >> let me get this straight. so alex goes to the white house last night. >> mm-hmm. >> because, you know, right-wing bloggers, we actually -- that's how we get our talking points. they go down -- valerie and david axelrod together make a big pot roast for us. >> mm-hmm. >> and lots of gravy. and we sit around eating it. and i, of course, say okay, give me extra gravy. i'm good with it. >> right. >> best sweet tea i've ever had. >> there's a give and take. >> actually, it was a christmas party. go ahead and do your blog. you sure as hell didn't get mitt romney to like it. they're not attacking me. i wouldn't know. i don't read it. so t.j. goes down. this is big. it's big. alex comes back. >> drove back. >> and he works. >> drove fr
restrictions and signs of a possible shift in public attitudes, about access to the weapons like the rifle used in connecticut, the national rifle association instead called for putting more armed security officers in the nation's schools. the. >> the onlying that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> reporter: the nra's wayne la pierre says children in most schools are defenseless because the schools proclaim to be places without guns. >> they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. >> reporter: he took no questions from reporters but was interrupted by protesters. >> shame on the nra! >> reporter: la pierre tried to anticipate criticism tham having more guns is not the answer. >> why is the idea of a gun good when it is used to protect the president of our country? or our police? but bad when it is used to protect our children in our schools? >> reporter: gun control advocates say the nra's idea won't be effective. they note would armed security officers could not stop the columbine shooting in 1999.
? welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have the chairman of deutsche incorporated, donny deutsch. and msnbc political analyst and visiting professor at nyu, former democratic congressman, harold ford jr. >> good morning. >> and in washington, msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> listen to the song. ♪ waiting for the end of the world ♪ >> good call, kid. elvis costello. "end of the world." >> "end of the world." it's here. no. no, no. >> what's this "new york post" stuff? what's going on? >> i don't know. olympic gold medalist turned prostitute. >> are you serious? >> the thing about the "post," they are always on the pulse. >> exclusive piece or is it in "the times," too? >> here's -- i'm glad it's going on in new york. they're getting ready for the holiday season. >> they've got their eye on the ball. >> i don't know what's going on there. >> let's just throw those away. john boehner had a bad night last night. >> yeah. a picture on the front page of "the new york times" seemed to say it all. >> yeah, my goodness. >> look at his face. >> he s
's -- not a serious proposal. so right now we're almost nowhere. >> >> mike viqueira joins us live from the white house. where is almost nowhere? >> it's inside the beltway and it's business as usual. it's also december 1st, alex, and we have exactly one month now to avert the fiscal cliff and avert what everybody agrees would be economic catastrophe. of course that combination of $500 billion, a half a trillion dollars in extra taxes for americans, about $2200 just next year alone for the average family. $100 billion in spending cuts, automatic spending cuts, part of that sequester, from the deal that we went through last year that we took right up to the last minute. so, there are two things that are clear here after the president's proffer, one the president and the white house feel as though they have the upper hand here, there's no question about it. number two, they're playing hardball. number three, i'll add a third one, we are in the preliminary stages, believe it or not, as we enter this final month. here are the basic outlines of what the president is proposing, $1.6 trillion in new rev
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